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Bands and musicians[edit]

Toyen (band)[edit]

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Does not meet WP:BAND criteria. The article is also long-time unsourced and has other issues. FromCzech (talk) 07:39, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Douglas Lucas[edit]

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Unsourced BLP article. Fails WP:GNG, WP:BIO and WP:NMG. WP:BEFORE search turned up many people with the same name, but not this person. The MySpace link in the Infobox only leads to a collection of music tracks, with the rest of the page lacking content. Geoff | Who, me? 04:18, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ursula Münzner-Linder[edit]

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Delete: Fails NMUSICIAN and reliable sourcing to confirm notability. Tkaras1 (talk) 02:03, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Only reliable and accessible sourcing I could find by Google search was this link, which alone does not seem sufficient. Her name is apparently not even spelled correctly! Tkaras1 (talk) 02:06, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alina Dragnea[edit]

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As an autobiography, this should at least be considered for deletion. — Biruitorul Talk 22:54, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why other opera singers are entitled to have a wikipedia page and I am not? What is different about my page? On their pages I see exactly the same informations: studies, career, roles... Alina.Mezzo (talk) 09:19, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Those are in another language version of wikipedia, we only consider the English one here. If you feel there are other articles that should not be in wikipedia, feel free to nominate them for deletion. The other pages present likely have at least three articles in what we consider reliable sources that discuss the individuals, but I have not reviewed them so can't comment. Oaktree b (talk) 13:08, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I mentioned other articles on wikipedia, similar to mine, with similar artists, to show that theirs was considered fine, even with less informations than I have provided and mine is to be deleted. I didn't know that if they are in another language than english, they are not reviewed very strictly.
I don't want the other pages deleted, it's their right to exist and inform people about the artists. I just think that if some pages with far less information can exist, mine should exist as well and not be deleted. However I will try to read more about the rules of wikipedia posting. I am not sure in how much time I can try to make it right until it gets deleted. Alina.Mezzo (talk) 13:52, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is not a laudative autobiography. It is just facts. I don's see why it should be deleted. Alina.Mezzo (talk) 09:20, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How do you know that this article https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionel_Voineag or this https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marina_Krilovici https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irina_Baian%C8%9B https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_Pascu https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvia_Sorina_Munteanu just to name a few are not autobiographies?
It is very possible that they themselves have written the informations on their pages. And it makes sense, because they have all the diplomas, posters from their performances and all the data about themselves.
I don't see why my article has to be deleted, when many other articles about other romanian singers are eligible to exist on wikipedia. I have posted a reference for every performance that I have sung in by posting a link to the opera house or festival etc where the performance took place, where my name can be found in the cast, as well as what I sang and on which dates, I have posted refernces as links to posters of the events, I have backed up all the information. It is not an eulogistic article, it is just an informative one, for the public to know my achievements as an artist. I think deletion of my page is unfair, judging by the fact that other romanian opera singers have wikipedia pages that they may have written themselves and some of them provided less information than I have provided. And we should all be allowed to have the pages. Because they are very informative for the public and for the media. Alina.Mezzo (talk) 11:00, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: This article is linking mentions of the singer as if that establishes notability, but this standard would put everyone on a playbill would get an article. It's possible that WP:NOTABILITY could be met, but it's not been established here. For @Alina.Mezzo, you need to see the WP:WP:NOTABOUTYOU and WP:COI. You aren't a reliable source for establishing your own notability, and it may be possible for you to demonstrate it with sources but "Why do they get one and I don't?" will always be met with our notability and sourcing standards. Nobody is trying to denigrate your success with this, but it reads promotionally to a lot of people here. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 13:06, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your reply. I will read more about the rules of posting an article on wikipedia. From a logical point of view I thought that referencing most of the performances and informations in the article, is what establishes notability.
I still fail to understand the promotional ideology regarding my article. All articles about opera singers mention the studies that they have, the awards, the performances...exactly the kind of informations that I have provided and are not considered promotional. For example this wiki article : Valentina Nafornița shows exactly the studies, the performances and the awards and other notable facts about this singer. Why her wiki page is not promotional? It even promotes her album. I'm asking why the information on her page is not considered promo and mine is. It's almost exactly the same type of information. I don't understand the reason.
I will read all about wp and wp:coi and I'll try to fulfill all the required informations.
I am not sure how much time I have to do the research until the page gets deleted.
Thank you! Alina.Mezzo (talk) 14:03, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I still fail to understand the promotional ideology regarding my article.
There's no ideology, and you need to read WP:BLUDGEON and take a bit of a step back from this AfD, I think we all understand your perspective here, respectfully. You need to establish notability per Wikipedia's standards, not just point at other articles. And the above singer has coverage from the BBC, for example. There may be promotional-looking material in there that needs to be removed, but the standards are based off of WP:NOTABILITY and WP:RS, not what other articles have. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 15:11, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rojda Aykoç[edit]

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Her notability cannot be proven by independent and reliable sources. Only IFEX source is good, but it is not adequate for passing GNG. As a result of the research conducted on the person, it was not possible to find independent and reliable sources. Considering there are not enough resources, deletion is appropriate. Kadı Message 20:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vladimír Hirsch[edit]

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Previously deleted and repeatedly created by sockpuppets and meatpuppets; also, more importantly, it's questionably sourced. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 18:29, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rap Rakesh Sethulingam[edit]

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Barely meets WP:MUSICBIO, a non-notable music artist. I can't find any notable works or significant coverage about the subject. 𝓡𝔂𝓭𝓮𝔁 17:10, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rheji Burrell[edit]

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I am not sure how this article looked back in 2012 when the first AfD came about, but now the article is confusing because it doesn't seem to know whether it wants to be about Mr. Burrell alone or about him and his brother. At any rate, the article discusses a non-notable production team(?) whose own discography hasn't seen them ever having charted; and the list of albums that they supposedly produced for other artists isn't sourced. It doesn't help that the article reads like the brothers themselves wrote it. Erpert blah, blah, blah... 04:53, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Senya Son[edit]

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Russian pianist and composer. Compliance with WP:MUSIC has not been demonstrated. Some of it looks like a hoax. The article was deleted in Russian Wikipedia [2].--Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 13:16, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FTG Metro[edit]

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Fails WP:BASIC, WP:ANYBIO, and WP:MUSICBIO. Unable to locate any significant biographical details in secondary sources; sources are mostly obituaries. No indication of awards or charted songs. Magnolia677 (talk) 12:49, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Troy Stetina[edit]

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I nominated this before but it was closed as no consensus since there were no other participates. Same reasoning as before applies: fails WP:MUSICBIO and quite promotional. Can’t find any in-depth sources on the subject. The cited Washington Post article [3] is about the subject’s father, Wayne Stetina. Dr. Swag Lord (talk) 21:43, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment Delate. I suggest that, if nobody comes to support it, it should be considered as a prod. Xxanthippe (talk) 03:03, 9 June 2024 (UTC).[reply]
  • Delete. This subject is not notable enough for an article. Qflib (talk) 03:16, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. To be notable through publishing works on how to play guitar, we would need in-depth published reviews of those works, and I don't see them. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:30, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very Weak Keep on a hunch (i.e., easily overruled). Coverage is basically blog and genre-magazine style, which needs a lot to add up to notability, but there is a lot out there (even discounting some that seem more like PR/Press-release interview type). Head of department (conservatories often don't have traditional academic ranks) but of a small department. Each part of his career adds up to slightly less than the relevant notability guideline, but together they peek just over the edge for me. -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 21:28, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Any non-blog, non-PR sources you would like to share? Dr. Swag Lord (talk) 21:58, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. He is well known in the guitar community and among musicians for his instruction releases. The problem is that this article is poorly sourced so I can see why it attracts a deletion nom. I know that his Left-Handed Guitar: The Complete Method by Stetina, Troy (2001) is quite popular. Yes of course, it takes more than good sales. His Fretboard Mastery was very popular too. He's had articles about him in various guitar mags both paper and online. The Guitarist magazine March 1993 is one. He had article beside Dominic Miller and Tony Zemaitis as you can see. The Guitar Noise website which is a huge go-to source for axmen and axeladies refers to Stetina as an "internationally recognized guitarist and music educator". There's others too but I don't want to get too caught up with this one. Further info below
    * This is from the magazine, Modern Drummer, September 1993 - Page 106 SPEED AND THRASH METAL DRUM METHOD by Troy Stetina and Charlie Busher.
    * And there's an article by Stetina published in Guitar One, Volume 9, No 2 February 2006 - Page 176 RETURN OF THE SHRED Come Together Two Essential Hybrid Scales
    There's more but searching gets flooded with the dozens of releases he has had put out. Karl Twist (talk) 12:58, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Those two books on Amazon have about 200 reviews each. This one is ranked 16,000+ in Music Instruction & Study. By no stretch of the imagination are these "popular" books and they don't contribute to notability.
    • Is this an article he wrote?
    • 1) The Guitar Noise website seems to be just a group blog about how to play the guitar. 2) The link you gave is just him responding to someone else's comment. That "internationally recognized" line is a promotional line he wrote himself (as per his own website).
    • The two articles in Modern Drummer and Guitar one are articles written by Stetina not articles about Stetina. They don't contribute to notability. You would need to find in-depth articles about Stetina.
    Dr. Swag Lord (talk) 18:29, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rave the Reqviem[edit]

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Nothing of notability in the bands history, additionally many of the references are primary Facebook posts about their band members history etc and I'm unable to find any significant coverage of the band online, outside of some album reviews from smaller blogs. InDimensional (talk) 23:42, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep, meets GNG, I found three sources with significant coverage of the band in Swedish media with a quick web search. [4] [5] [6] AlexandraAVX (talk) 08:33, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I've added these and other sources into the article now. AlexandraAVX (talk) 11:21, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - per WP:GNG. Added sources since nom are good as well.BabbaQ (talk) 11:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: The article meets WP:GNG. Additionally, sources added since the nomination provide substantial coverage, confirming the band's notability. Waqar💬 17:10, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Per Alex dxneo (talk) 19:43, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: As initial author I'm going to abstain from voting due to bias, but I'd just like to thank the people who found the Swedish sources to put this article in-line with GNG. It's better than what I was able to find. Schiffy (Speak to me|What I've done) 20:49, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tim Metcalfe (musician)[edit]

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Self-authored Wikipedia about a non-notable musician. Half of the references on the page don't even mention him, and the ones that do only make a single passing mention of his involvement in some non-notable experimental indie band. The only substantial and reliable source I can find talking about him in any depth is this but, other than that, crickets. Elspamo4 (talk) 03:46, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Koopsta Knicca[edit]

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The sourcing and coverage surrounding this deceased rapper seems to be very borderline by WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC standards. This is more of a request to see if any better sourcing can be found, though I am bringing this here because it's very possible that this could just end up being tossed out. The only three independent sources on this page are announcements about his death in 2015, he does not appear to have received significant coverage for anything else he did, and the rest are just links to buy his albums on Amazon, which are in no way acceptable as sources. He does not appear to have had a solo album that ever charted or got certified. I'm unsure if what's here is enough to establish notability, so I will refrain from voting (though, if consensus comes to deleting it, I would support a redirect to Three 6 Mafia, the unmistakably notable group that he was once a member of) and so I will leave the decision to everyone else. JeffSpaceman (talk) 20:10, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fluxion (electronic musician)[edit]

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Contested PROD. No significant coverage in reliable sources. Fails WP:MUSICBIO. Jalen Folf (Bark[s]) 23:49, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Novembre (band)[edit]

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No evidence of any notability. There are everal spin-off articles detailing each disc, but these also have only reviews as their sources. This article has a single source and searches don't find anything better. Fails WP:BAND and all their discography articles fail similarly.  Velella  Velella Talk   19:11, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

reviews of their music contribute to their notability in criteria 1 of WP:NBAND in the same way that reviews of books contrbute to the notability of an author, and reviews of artist's exhibitions contribute to the notability of an artist and so on regarding other creative people, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 21:54, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Contrary to what the nominator claims, reviews help satisfy the very first criterion: "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself [...] such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media". Novembre also blatantly meets WP:NBAND#5. Furthermore, there are lot more sources. Metal.de alone has 6 reviews [8], Rock Hard (magazine) has 7 reviews [9] etc. Geschichte (talk) 19:40, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi, have found some extra sources here, here,here, here,here, and small news items news here. Metal Hammer, New Noise Magazine, and Metal Storm are reliable sources but i'm not familiar with the other Italian ones, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 19:48, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jerry Newton[edit]

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The article seems to attempt to inherit notability from Wayne Newton, Jerry's younger brother. WP:NOTINHERITED applies. Checking the references is challenging. Jerry does appear, generally with reference to the sibling, and as a passing reference to Jerry. The article seems to be more a tribute (WP:NOTMEMORIAL applies) than anything else. Jerry was obviously notable to those who loved and respected him, but the references do not show a pass of any of WP:BIO, WP:NMUSICIAN, nor WP:NACTOR. Releasing records does not mean notability, nor does a bit part in an episode of Bonanza where he is listed as a cast member, but his part was not a named character. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 12:45, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Louisa Rachel Solomon[edit]

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No obvious reason why bandmember should have own page. Doesn't seem to pass WP:BANDMEMBER. Very few internal links. Seaweed (talk) 18:43, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep as "Louisa Solomon" (as this article should be called) easily meets WP:BASIC. Agree that not every band member should have their own Wikipedia article, but in her case, it is justified because of the focused coverage she has received about her anti-Zionist views while identifying as Jewish and queer. This was discussed in The Washington Post (Online) in 2014 when the band's scheduled performance at a festival run by the DC Jewish Community Center was canceled due to her stated political views. There is also a 2014 Wall Street Journal Online article about her as well as the band. If you compare the band's article (The Shondes) with her biography, the two are distinct – and it's important to note that many reviews about The Shondes (e.g. in Rolling Stone) don't even discuss their religion and politics and the band also includes at least one non-Jewish member. Cielquiparle (talk) 21:06, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment It's a fair point, but I just don't see the notability myself. Doesn't seem that significant to merit an entire article. Maybe one sentence in the band's page at best in context of the cancelled concert. Seaweed (talk) 18:41, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Julia Kova[edit]

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The significance of the person is not visible in WP: MUSIC. Among the links are her official website and social networks.--Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 20:41, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dean Webb[edit]

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Doesn't meet the notability guideline. Knowledgegatherer23 (Say Hello) 21:01, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Note to the closing admin. I would like ask please that if by chance the consensus leans towards deletion, we look at redirecting the page to Ivor Kirchin, Basil Kirchin as he was a member of The Kirchin Band for a year, having replaced the featured singer Rory Blackwell in 1957. Webb stayed with the band for a year and I believe sang on at least two recordings. He was involved with both Ivor and Basil. This would also preserve the history. Thanks Karl Twist (talk) 06:32, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, there's a couple of good articles in the The British Newspaper archive. Unfortunately its pay so you can read thing. There's also this article with his picture below,
    Disc, No. 67 Week ending May 16, 1959 - Page 7 THE BLACKSMITH WHO PREFERRED BEAT TO THE ANVIL CHORUS, Big break
    I haven't got time to comb through the other UK music trade magazines and a lot of the earlier ones can't be word searched. So it's a case of having to go through all the content of this often faded but thankfully preserved historical music info.
    I'm satisfied to call this a keep. Karl Twist (talk) 10:47, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Griffin Burns[edit]

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WP:BLP of a voice actor and singer, not properly sourced as passing inclusion criteria for actors or singers. As always, neither actors nor singers are automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to be shown to pass WP:GNG on third-party reliable source coverage about them and their work -- but this is very heavily reference bombed to primary sources that are not support for notability (songs sourced to Spotify or YouTube or their own lyrics on Genius, acting credits sourced to IMDb, YouTube "interviews" where he's talking about himself, Facebook posts, etc.), with virtually no evidence of GNG-worthy reliable source coverage about him shown at all.
This is different enough in form from the prior versions that I wouldn't feel comfortable speedying it as a recreation of deleted content without a new discussion, but it hasn't built any stronger case for the subject passing any notability criteria than the prior versions did. Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to be referenced better than this. Bearcat (talk) 17:29, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

sorry for the late response, been busy. i believe that Griffin's article does fall under notability due to him being cast in multiple significant roles in noteworthy projects (tartaglia in genshin, nate adams from yokai watch, Mule from berserk). Minmarion (talk) 03:50, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The notability test for an actor is not "has been in stuff"; having acting roles is literally an actor's job description, meaning that by definition every actor who exists at all has had acting roles and wouldn't be an actor at all if they hadn't, so quite literally every actor who exists at all would be "inherently" notable if simply listing acting roles were all it took.
The notability test for an actor requires reliable source coverage about him and his performances in real media, demonstrating that his performances have been independently verified as significant ones by somebody other than his own public relations agent. Bearcat (talk) 13:48, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep WP:NOTABILITY is quite clear, an article must pass either the general notability guidelines, or a subject specific guideline. WP:ENTERTAINER states "The person has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions". Voice actors, and others on the list there as entertainers, are notable for their work, not what others say about it. You can see how many episodes the characters he voices are in for each series listed, so these are significant roles, not a one time minor character. Dream Focus 23:56, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's not how notability per NACTOR works. Like I said above, every actor can list roles, so every actor would automatically be "inherently" notable if simply listing roles were all it took — so notability as an actor doesn't vest in simply listing roles, and does require evidence of reliable source about him and his performances. Reliable sources have to tell us whether any given role is "significant" enough to count toward NACTOR #1 in the first place, which they do by writing third-party coverage about it. Bearcat (talk) 20:30, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not all actors have notable roles. If you had reliable sources, it'd pass the general notability guidelines, and so the subject specific guidelines would have no reason to exist. More than one way to determine notability, this how it was setup from the beginning. Dream Focus 03:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay here's the deal let's not be deletion of Griffin Burns i mean he did not get any wrong article you suppose to fix the wikipedia of Griffin Burns without copying and risk of deletion article, this guys is best voice actor he appeared many TV shows and anime and video games i remember watching his voice appearing from Netflix Griffin Burns is a Top of Voice Actor genre, So I repeat Restart the Article without copying other people on wikipedia and without risk of deletion. Top-Gman3304 (talk) 14:15, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete and WP:SALT for a least a year due to almost no sources that can establish notability. Biography section could be made one sentence due to the weakness of the sources. Most of the article is sources that would not pass a reliability test. I've tried to look at this from other angles, but there's nothing here to get this article to the next level or be kept. Esw01407 (talk) 19:12, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 11:51, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Matteo Ciceroni[edit]

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Does not appear to meet the criteria for WP:NMUSIC or WP:SIGCOV. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 15:58, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep as mentioned above.

Michalis Koumbios[edit]

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The subject is not notable. There are few (if any) reliable secondary sources; the single source used is apparently from 2006 and only available through archive.is. LoganP25 (talk) 00:35, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep

I see that many reliable Greek media have posted about him: 1)https://www.athensvoice.gr/city-guide/music/492901/mihalis-koympios/ 2) https://www.naftemporiki.gr/culture/1405577/stagones-o-synthetis-michalis-koympios-sto-megaro-moysikis-athinon/ 3) https://www.athensvoice.gr/city-guide/music/350565/mihalis-koympios-apanthisma-sto-idryma-mihalis-kakogiannis/ 4) https://toprotoselido.gr/i-fm-records-paroysiazei-ti-nea-tis-kykloforia-quot-magical-rebetiko-quot/ 5) https://www.newsbreak.gr/politismos/434321/michalis-koympios-paroysiazei-stagones-megaro-moysikis-athinon-2/ 6) https://www.naftemporiki.gr/culture/371889/michalis-koubios-ta-provlimata-mas-einai-gigantia-kai-epeigonta/ 7) https://www.in.gr/2016/04/26/life/music/o-mixalis-koympios-se-ena-theama-poikilwn-metamorfwsewn/ 8) https://www.ethnos.gr/music/article/184189/miltospasxalidhstoneosingletoystonoyranometoysmixalhkoympiokaithrodef 9) https://www.tovima.gr/2017/11/24/culture/mixalis-koympios-paroysiazei-to-almpoym-tsikari-m-ston-stayro-toy-notoy/ With that being said, the article needs to be improved though, in order to include that material. (Note: I am a newcomer, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.) ArchidamusIII (talk) 15:00, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bass 305[edit]

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Non-notable band. Fails WP:BAND. SL93 (talk) 04:30, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • I did do WP:BEFORE. I already explained the nomination. Just read WP:BAND. I refuse to regurgitate the guideline. SL93 (talk) 03:57, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Poitín (band)[edit]

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Does not meet WP:BAND criteria. The founder and main contributor of the site is apparently someone from the band and the page is more a self-presentation. FromCzech (talk) 04:41, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your thoughts. Do you have any suggestions to avoid it being deleted? Poitin31 (talk) 17:31, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm curious as well how to avoid deletion (I'm not a member of this band in case of any accusation of self-presentation). Kmarty (talk) 11:19, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • If the band does not meet WP:BAND criteria, there is no way to prevent deletion. FromCzech (talk) 05:44, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. I cannot see multiple reliable sources having covered this band in sufficient detail to meet notability requirements. C679 13:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Supersci[edit]

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Nominated by an IP user: Non-notable group, going by available sources. Both with its current ("Supersci") and its former ("Superscientifiku") name, the group is mentioned on some Swedish websites, but with very few exceptions (e.g. Sundsvalls Tidning) either these sources are non-reliable, or the subject is mentioned only in passing. GrabUp - Talk 18:54, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In 2011, their "Timelines" was nominated (again, did not win) at the sv:P3 Guld. Example sources, at Sveriges Television here, and at Sveriges Radio P3 here. --62.166.252.25 (talk) 05:15, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, I've added three different sources that provide significant coverage. The article meets WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC. AlexandraAVX (talk) 16:04, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can’t check offline sources, but linked sources are not WP:SIGCOV.
  • 1st source: Are only sayings of connected ones of the subject, no in-depth coverage of the subject.
  • 4rth source: Nomination list of the award P3, I don’t know how much this award is notable. GrabUp - Talk 04:30, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    1st source: I see what you mean, though the offline sources are more independent of the subject.
    4th source: The nomination doesn't confer notability, but I thought it was worth mentioning since it was brought up in the AfD. AlexandraAVX (talk) 08:30, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I found the third source (or at least an article about the same thing by the same author) online, so added it to the article if you want to take a look. AlexandraAVX (talk) 09:13, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak Keep - Sources and added sources since nom shows notability at least per WP:NMUSIC at this time. I say Weak Keep. BabbaQ (talk) 09:13, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Najma Akhtar[edit]

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The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC Dowrylauds (talk) 13:19, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Salman Muqtadir[edit]

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Sources are trivial (included in a list of other youtubers) and non-independent. One significant coverage is about his investigation by the police. No other significant independent secondary source covering his popularity as a content creator. - AlbeitPK (talk) 01:51, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: An article that doesn't meet WP:ENT for inclusion on Wikipedia. While I couldn't find any clue in the former AFDs that I still hold deep breath of how it had survived two–three discussions. I am not going to base in any past whatsoever but here is the source analysis and final conclusion. source 1 is a primary source but it verifies the content as used in most of the articles like that per WP:PRIMARYSOURCE. Source 2 is good for sourcing but doesn't support the 'wife marriage'. source 3 is an obvious advert and interview making me suspect the credibility/reliability of source 2. Source 4 is unreliable, and source 5 looks like an advertorial unverifiable publication. Source 6, source 7, and source 8 contributes to a non notable controversy and I call it WP:BLP1E because the said event is not notable for a standalone article. [11] and [12] supports a non notable film and book, hence doesn't meet WP:NACTOR or WP:NAUTHOR. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 21:08, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Not a notable person Md Joni Hossain (talk) 18:24, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Previously I nominated this article for Afd and my view still same. There is no WP:SIGCOV and fails WP:GNG. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 21:56, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Article has been improved and more reliable sources are added, such as The Daily Star or Prothom Alo. Popular national reliable newspapers claim that Salman Muqtadir is a popular YouTuber and actor and there are a bunch of sources about him from reliable sites. Although some news are about his marriage or other things but they are published independently about him and declared him as YouTuber, influencer or actor. Therefore GNG has been able to establish. Ontor22 (talk) 12:03, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The Daily star tag link you showed popped paid/sponsored articles [13], [14], [15], and [16]. They doesn't credibly means this article won't met notability later. See WP:LOTSOFSOURCES and know there isn't any amount of sources you add to a non notable person to be notable. On the aspect scene of YouTube, famous people are celebrities bur that doesn't mean try are notable. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 18:58, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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