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Make the D in dependencies in the column capital. Kaspuuks (talk) 11:57, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done per the manual of style on table headers (WP:HEADERS). Wizmut (talk) 13:21, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Crimea[edit]

Crimea should be listed separately, like Kosovo or Abkhazia. There is widespread non-recognition of its Russian status. 24.108.18.81 (talk) 03:13, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The difference is that nobody calls it a sovereign state or a dependent territory. Either way it's an integral part of one country or another.

The reason lists on WP say it's part of Ukraine is because most governments and the UN say it's part of Ukraine. Wizmut (talk) 03:57, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, its population should be included with that of Ukraine, whichiis not presently the case. 24.108.18.81 (talk) 06:38, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good point. The UN's area figures attach Crimea to Ukraine, but their population figures attach it to Russia. I believe this is because Russia is the entity capable of conducting a census there.

I don't really like the idea, but I suppose the list could give a calculation based on what Russia says the population of Crimea is. But perhaps the entry should make it very obvious that simple, high-quality data are simply not available. Wizmut (talk) 06:43, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will ask somebody to transfer Crimea's population to Ukraine. 24.108.18.81 (talk) 16:29, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is an explanatory note, as there is for many other situations where population calculations may not account for some expectations. We should not be manually chopping and changing figures. CMD (talk) 10:32, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ethiopia’s population[edit]

The article for Ethiopia estimates its 2023 population as 127,955,823 (from https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/ethiopia-population/#google_vignette). This article uses an estimate of 107,334,000 from the Ethiopian government. This is a pretty big discrepancy and if the larger number were used, it would put Ethiopia's population above that of Japan and the Philippines. Is there some way to pick a canonical estimate, for example one that is believed to be more accurate, and use that on all the articles? rdl381 (talk) 08:06, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see section 'Method'. This article uses official figures when available. Contrast this article with List of countries by population (United Nations). Wizmut (talk) 08:38, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok got it. Official figures when available. That's why India is still number 2 in population in this article. Alexysun (talk) 20:24, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

India[edit]

Please update, India has a higher population than China

https://www.un.org/development/desa/pd/sites/www.un.org.development.desa.pd/files/undesa_pd_2023_policy-brief-153.pdf 180.150.36.216 (talk) 04:32, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

About South Korea's population date[edit]

The South Korean date should be February 29, not 31. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.197.204.240 (talk) 13:08, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Iran quite outdated[edit]

https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/iran/summaries/#people-and-society

87,590,873 (2023 est.)

cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran#cite_note-7

2001:9E8:71:7E00:4D3F:3C53:6F18:1FB2 (talk) 15:01, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see section "Method". This list uses official figures when available. Contrast this article with List of countries by population (United Nations). Wizmut (talk) 15:33, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Canada population[edit]

For Canada's population, I'd encourage you to use the quarterly population estimates published by Statistics Canada (https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1710000901). It's the most accurate and up-to-date estimate of Canada's population. It's also the source used on the wikipedia page dedicated to Canada. As of 2024 Q1, Canada's population is 40,769,890. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZeusMinerva25 (talk • contribs) 08:23, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thailand's population is now 71,869,367 MaruchaLaosdy (talk) 06:30, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 06:34, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

United Nations Population Fund[edit]

According to the UNPF there is currently 8,119 M people in the world and not 8,102 M : https://www.unfpa.org/data/world-population-dashboard — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.24.187.214 (talk) 13:28, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]