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Ramesses II in hieroglyphs
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Ramesses the self-promoter[edit]

I am unsure if this should be included: Ramesses the Great was a superb self-promoter. Does anyone have any opinions on that? Nuretok (talk) 18:27, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Captain obvious. All the monuments Ramesses built were intended to promote his own reputation. The detailed Egyptian description of the Battle of Kadesh (Ramesses' most famous battle) is a famous piece of ancient propaganda. From the main article:

- "The main source of information is in the Egyptian record of the battle for which a general level of accuracy is assumed, despite factual errors and propaganda. The bombastic nature of Ramesses's version has long been recognized."
- Some of the sources in the article state something which Wikipedia has avoided to summmarise. Ramesses' inscriptions emphasized his personal courage and presented the battle as a victory, but the heavy Egyptian casualties can directly be attributed to Ramesses' strategic blunders and to Ramesses himself leading the army directly into an enemy ambush. And he actually failed to achieve his strategic goals, as the Egyptian army abandoned the siege of Kadesh and retreated back to Egypt. Dimadick (talk) 08:28, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Prince Regent[edit]

The first paragraph under "Early Life" says Ramesses II's father (Seti I) made him (R2) Prince Regent. This is a misuse of the term. It is the father who should be referred to as Prince Regent, ruling in place of the son (therightful monarch) while the son (R2) was still a boy. 2603:8000:D300:33A0:E16D:68CB:F904:23DD (talk) 06:56, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gold Mining In Nubia[edit]

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Add under the "building projects and monuments" section in a bullet point that "Ramses II expanded gold mining operations in Akuyati (modern day Wadi Allaqi)"

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Cosmic Nudibranch (talk) 00:59, 12 September 2023 (UTC)Cosmic Nudibranch[reply]

Done. Cheers! Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 16:46, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ramesseum photo[edit]

The photo of Ramesseum is incorrect. It shows the temple built by Ramesses III in Medinet Habu. Lifter67 (talk) 15:00, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hieroglyphics not given?[edit]

Surely this basic data is essential?

92.15.223.1 (talk) 17:09, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The full royal titulary is provided in the infobox. It is collapsed (or hidden) by default due to the amount of space it occupies. Mr rnddude (talk) 17:32, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]