Talk:Shane Van Boening

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This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

WikiProject Cue sports to-do list:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Article requests : Lots of high-priority articles need to be created:

List of wanted articles...

Games: A bunch of high-priority game redlinks, e.g. American four-ball billiards (redirs to Four-ball billiards but not specifically covered there)
"Legends": Edwin Kelly, Charlie Peterson (pool player) (all BCA Hall of Famers); George Franklin Slosson, Maurice Daly (billiards player), Frank Ives, George Butler Sutton [not George H. Sutton, the one with no hands]
Male pool bios: Hsia Hui-kai
Female pool bios:
Male three-cushion bios: Dion Nelin & Jozef Bel Philipoom
Female carom bios: Aygen Berk Saygıner
Aristic pool bios: Nick Nikolaidis, Mark Dimick,Sebastian Giumelli, Eric Yow
Unranked in current pool but notable: Mike Eufemia, Shannon Daulton, Jimmy Reid (pool player) [speed pool champ], var. Mosconi Cup players
Non-player figures: Mitch Laurance, George Fels
Five-pins bios: Gustavo Zito
Organizations: Joss Tour
Events: WPA World Nine-ball Championships (pre-1997), BCA Open Nine-ball Championship, World 14.1 Continuous Championship, International Challenge of Champions (pool)
Media and misc.: Iwan Simonis (leading billiard cloth maker), Joss Cues (major cue mfr.), The Baron and the Kid [Johnny Cash film], Ultimate Pool Party [TV show]
And: everyone/thing listed at WP:CUEGAMES, WP:CUEEVENTS, WP:CUEORGS, WP:CUEBIOS, & WP:CUEMISC. Also a Cue sports world records article (many can be pulled from bio articles like Geet Sethi, Guinness Book will provide others, and so will BCA and other orgs., websites and books like Shamos 1999).
Meta: Outline of cue sports (OoK; cf. [1], etc.) – presently redirects to Cue sports, but this is not an OoK page.
Internal pages: Something like: [2][3]). Such pages are not fluff, but can be good places to find recruits for the project, possibly including subject-matter experts, especially if cross-referenced to the project. Also, Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Cue sports (cf. [4][5][6]).

Cleanup : Thomas Engert, Marlon Manalo
Copyedit : Jonni Fulcher
Expand : Cue sports techniques#Carom shots (section needs to exist), Straight pool, Alfredo de Oro,Jeanette Lee (pool player)
NPOV : Andy Segal (major WP:COI and WP:V issues, too), Jose Parica (it's bad!); Efren Reyes, Thomas Engert, Dennis Orcollo, Dick Jaspers
Photo : Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports and Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports people
Split : List of World Eight-ball Champions - blackball stuff needs own article {draft split from real eight-ball one (draft).
Stubs : loads of players in Category:Cue sports stubs
Update : Arcade game (link to bagatelle, bar billiards, etc.)
Verify : Cue stick (mostly WP:OR!), Frank Taberski (has major fact conflict between BCA & NYT sourcing), Russian pyramid, add sources to Unreferenced BLPs
Wikify : Chicago (pool), Jonni Fulcher
Other :
- Create timelines, both textual and graphical. See link for various guidelines and examples. We need an overall one for cue sports generally, and more specific ones as we drill down into more specific topics (timeline of nine-ball, timeline of Willie Mosconi's career, etc.).
- Form sections: Exhibition game needs section on cue sports; could later form a new article with "Main article..." xref to it. What other general articles need cue sports sections?
- CopyVio rewrite:
- Clarify: What is the "continuous pool" listed above "14.1 continuous" at Alfredo DeOro?
- Delete or defend:
- Move/Rename (and Redirect):
- Redirect:
- Unorphan:
- Ensure: that rules discussions in game articles & the Billiard techniques article do not violate WP:NOT#IINFO.
- Help fix: WP:CUEBIOS#Pool players (women) is nearly empty!
- Help develop: the lists of WP:CUEORGS and WP:CUEEVENTS
- Images: improve articles with images from commons; create pics and add them to commons as GFDL/CC-by/PD.
- Add: {{Sport overview}} to main articles of cue games that are real sports; medal table tags where they apply (see Ding Junhui for example).
- Insert: Cue sports events (tournament results, etc.) into the "year in sports" categories (e.g. 1965 in sports), using {{subst:Cue sports heading}} if that year doesn't have one yet.
- Change:
- Replace:
- Some day: Seek Featured Topic status.
- Plunder: the French article; it does have some interesting tidbits, structure and images. Check out de.wikipedia, etc., as well.
- Inter-wiki: Improve simple:Billiards and foreign-language key articles.

See also: Snooker to-do list

Note: To watchlist this to-do list, click on "watch" at top right of this table. Watching the page it is transcluded on won't watch the to-do list.

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Notations at bottom of article cannot be seen[edit]

Resolved

– Someone fixed it.

A recent edit has caused the bottom of this article to not be seen.

Can somebody please fix it? I am not sure how to do it. I am afraid if I try, I will erase something else. When edits are made, it would be helpful to check the article to make sure ALL THE INFORMATION that was there previously remains intact. Thanks in advance.

RailbirdJAM 10:41, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Problem has disappeared. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 12:16, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral[edit]

This article does read more like a gushing endorsement or perhaps even the blurb on a book, rather than an encyclopedic entry. VonBlade (talk) 11:26, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tagged it for cleanup in this regard. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 12:15, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Would you please be so kind as to provide any help on how to clean it up? The content of the encyclopedic article about Van Boening has references to various pool media. In essence, each statement written is backed up by a pool magazine, newspaper, or website as a reference. What would be needed to help it meet the guidelines for Wikipedia? Thanks in advance for any and all help. RailbirdJAM (talk) 17:54, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am cleaning up the intro, which is currently absurd - it is not the business of Wikipedia articles to make laudatory comments about a player's character - this is personal opinion, and not fact. The fact that an article publishes it is no reason for Wikipedia or make the same statement. I am going to replace all this with a simple comment on Van Boening having received acclaim for his character - this is the absolute maximum an article of this kind can offer, unless some more authoritative material can be provided, and the wording re-worked. Jleadermaynard (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 16:55, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What a shame. Any pool enthusiast, fan, player or professional is WELL AWARE of Shane's character. In fact, just read any pool magazine within the past two years about Shane, and each one states EXACTLY what was written in the opening paragraph of this article. This Wikipedia editing is absurd sometimes. Why not just say Minnesota Fats didn't exist because the laudatory comments are absurd. What a joke! :>( RailbirdJAM (talk) 12:19, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The problem isn't that Shane's high character is in doubt, but that the inclusion of the snippet inherently implies that the average pocket billiards player is of low character, which would clearly be considered opinionated speculation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.16.224.239 (talk) 15:58, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dutch surname[edit]

"Van Boening" is not a Dutch surname. It is likely a degeneration of "Van Beuningen", which is indeed a Dutch surname. 178.84.82.115 (talk) 12:24, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]