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Rhynchocyon
- ... that a new subspecies of giant sengi was discovered in 2021? Source: "Despite the pelage differences, initial DNA comparisons found it nearly identical to R. chrysopygus. A later DNA comparison supported a designation of a new subspecies, Rhynchocyon chrysopygus mandelai as it diverges in pelage and is allopatric to R. chrysopygus (Agwanda et al. 2021)."
- ALT1 ... that a new subspecies of giant sengi was discovered in 2021 in Kenya? Source: "Despite the pelage differences, initial DNA comparisons found it nearly identical to R. chrysopygus. A later DNA comparison supported a designation of a new subspecies, Rhynchocyon chrysopygus mandelai as it diverges in pelage and is allopatric to R. chrysopygus (Agwanda et al. 2021)."
- ALT2 ... that a new Golden-rumped sengi subspecies (Rhynchocyon) was discovered in in Kenya? Source: "Despite the pelage differences, initial DNA comparisons found it nearly identical to R. chrysopygus. A later DNA comparison supported a designation of a new subspecies, Rhynchocyon chrysopygus mandelai as it diverges in pelage and is allopatric to R. chrysopygus (Agwanda et al. 2021)."
- ALT3 ... that a new subspecies of the giant Golden-rumped sengi was discovered in 2021? Source: "Despite the pelage differences, initial DNA comparisons found it nearly identical to R. chrysopygus. A later DNA comparison supported a designation of a new subspecies, Rhynchocyon chrysopygus mandelai as it diverges in pelage and is allopatric to R. chrysopygus (Agwanda et al. 2021)."
- Reviewed:
5x expanded by Azcolvin429 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Andrew Z. Colvin • Talk 02:53, 20 April 2024 (UTC).
- QPQ: Kiso 5639 and moved to prep. Andrew Z. Colvin • Talk 03:27, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Date, size, expansion, hook, refs, QPQ, copyvio spotcheck, all GTG. Minor disclaimer: the prose script I use does not count tables and bulleted lists, and without them I see only ~2.5-3x expansion. But there is a new large table (with some advanced features) and a new list, so I am AGFing the 5x claim. PS. I added a single citation needed request to one sentence - I ask the nom to comment here on whether it has been addressed. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:15, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- Reference added! And yes, it was not massively expanded, however I am working on more sections in the conservation section today. Thank you for the comments. Andrew Z. Colvin • Talk 22:55, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- Not happy with 'recently'; hooks must not be likely to change.--Launchballer 17:41, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Azcolvin429: Another issue with recently is that it's relative to the field but if that's unclear, it could give folks a misleading impression. 2008/7 is recent for the discovery of species, but not recent in other ways. Back in 2007, you could pull your Blackberry out of your ombré jeans and text your friends to meet you at Blockbuster Video so you all could rent a DVD to play on your PS2. Some people could read the hook as meaning that it was discovered earlier this year. I thought some of the reproduction information cited to Rathbun was interesting, including that they're monogamous but spend little time together and the quick development of the offspring, "mall versions of adults and are able to run swiftly within an hour of birth". Good luck, whichever way you go, Rjjiii (talk) 06:24, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
@Azcolvin429 and Piotrus: have you seen the above? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- AirshipJungleman29, Fair point, I would be happy to review alternate hooks, as on second thought the current one is also not very interesting. Could of course just change 'recently' to a year and move on, accepting that it won't be very clickable. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- I know it is not super interesting, its just a little factoid and I expanded the article significantly so figured it would be useful. I initally avoided the year as it is not super recent, but it was not on Wikipedia until I wrote about it and updated corresponding phylogenies and distributions. I should clarify that the expanded article is just the genus. The new subspecies is Rhynchocyon chrysopygus mandelai and is mentioned in the article as well as given a section titled "Kenya subspecies". Maybe the hook should be more specific? Though I wanted to avoid being too technical. I added a few alts. Andrew Z. Colvin • Talk 06:39, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- AirshipJungleman29, Fair point, I would be happy to review alternate hooks, as on second thought the current one is also not very interesting. Could of course just change 'recently' to a year and move on, accepting that it won't be very clickable. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Azcolvin429: Another issue with recently is that it's relative to the field but if that's unclear, it could give folks a misleading impression. 2008/7 is recent for the discovery of species, but not recent in other ways. Back in 2007, you could pull your Blackberry out of your ombré jeans and text your friends to meet you at Blockbuster Video so you all could rent a DVD to play on your PS2. Some people could read the hook as meaning that it was discovered earlier this year. I thought some of the reproduction information cited to Rathbun was interesting, including that they're monogamous but spend little time together and the quick development of the offspring, "mall versions of adults and are able to run swiftly within an hour of birth". Good luck, whichever way you go, Rjjiii (talk) 06:24, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Not happy with 'recently'; hooks must not be likely to change.--Launchballer 17:41, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Reference added! And yes, it was not massively expanded, however I am working on more sections in the conservation section today. Thank you for the comments. Andrew Z. Colvin • Talk 22:55, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
