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Archive 1

Archive 2

The Saga.

There is a maintenance category called, Category:Song articles with both composer and songwriter with the specific reason so incorrect entries that have the terms songwriter and composer used in the same article can be corrected. I have managed to correct 50 in the past 2 days with only this complaint. So that you understand the problem I note different functions.

• Songwriter. Person who write music and lyrics.
• Composer. Person who write music only.
• Lyricist. Person who write words only.

As you can see having songwriter and composer in the same article cannot be right. Some may have written both words and music, in which case, those names should appear under both lyricist and composer and the term songwriter not used. If you are unsure who contributed what then the generic 'songwriter' is best used. I shall leave the problem to you to sort out, but, if, on my next sweep of this category find incorrect statements I will correct as best I can.

I also note you have made these same mistakes on other articles. Please can you correct those too, please. Thankyou.

BTW, the infobox is a summary of the article, yet I note the text is silent as to who did what (an observation, not a complaint as there are many other articles doing this). Richhoncho (talk) 11:09, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Hmm Honcho this is interesting, thanks for the information mate. So make me understand this part, let's say you and I we make a song where we both write the music + words/lytics = songwriter, right? And our friend writes only the lyrics. since we are the songwriters, where does that leave our friend?
I hope this is understandable as I'm trying not to make this "mistake" again. I have stumbled across something similar when I was creating "10 Fingers" as Yanga Ntshakaza only wrote the lyrics and it is cited on one of the sources and I use streaming platforms (specifically Apple Music) as my source for this kind of things. dxneo (talk) 11:32, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

In scenario you suggest:

composer: Honcho, Dxneo

lyrics: Honcho, Dxneo, friend.

Alternatively, you could put all 3 names under songwriter, which would not be as accurate as possible, but not incorrect. --Richhoncho (talk) 11:55, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, it means a lot, I'll try to fix my mistakes. dxneo (talk) 12:30, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Manaka Matsukubo

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No need to say self-titled albums are eponymous

Hello Dxneo. Regarding Tyla (album), I don't know if you know, but the editor Sundayclose (and perhaps some others) have systematically removed references to self-titled albums being "eponymous" from basically all self-titled albums' articles on Wikipedia as this is obvious to anyone who can read. There is no need to point it out, let alone have a debate with an editor over whether or not to link eponymous. Same goes for prose on "Water" and wherever else references to self-titled albums are made. We can tell it's self-titled. Also, none of the sources appear to talk about the album's genres as a whole (the genres of "Water" are not necessarily those of the other 12 tracks, excluding the remix) and I don't know why Tyla would have revealed the track list (obscured) but still be recording its tracks into next year. There's no source for that either, so I have removed both. The track list's five revealed tracks are up on Apple Music already so I have added those (but we should avoid linking to Apple Music per WP:AFFILIATE). If you reply, please do so here. Thanks. Ss112 16:48, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the information mate, you are appreciated. I've seen a lot of "eponymous" on the 80s/90s R&B albums a while back so I thought that's the way of doing it. dxneo (talk) 17:15, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Ss112, so what about the "Water (Remix)", shouldn't it added on the opening statement along with the other lead singles? dxneo (talk) 17:17, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

We generally don't include remixes as separate singles. There are exceptions (e.g. when a song was not released as a single initially but its remix was), but in most cases, remixes are just reissues of singles to help prolong or enhance their success and, at least for pop artists, are a common part of a single's promotional campaign. It's clear "Water" was issued first and primarily as a solo song, and I think even now, the original is outdoing the Travis Scott remix in most markets. Ss112 04:19, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

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Category:Tyla (South African singer) has been nominated for deletion

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Hello. Your recent edits on afro house seemed controversial or opinion-based. Hence, I have reverted them. Please see, [1] in reference as into why the hatnote is important for the reader. Furthermore, as per stipulated many afro house songs actually display with the tags "afrobeat/s","Nigerian street music", "pop" and many other genres, however the predominant tags seems to be the former on Google search results for instance [2]. Regarding the other information added in your template such as "not interesting for reader" and cite kill etc. , please see [3]. Qaqaamba (talk) 05:14, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

I have taken your cite kill stipulation into consideration and removed a few re-used references to the best of my ability without leaving "unreferenced paragraphs" or creating "unsourced material" as well as one redlink. Furthermore, if you're willing to assist to replace the redlinks with greenlinks.that would be great. Qaqaamba (talk) 05:58, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

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Issue about track listing template

There's recent discussion for track listing template? If you have time, your comments are always appreciated. Regards. 2001:D08:2904:5A30:17AD:608:7E78:8D7B (talk) 16:18, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Tyla (South African singer) audio samples

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NAC for Miss Polly Had a Dolly

Hi Dxneo. Would you please undo your NAC of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miss Polly Had a Dolly and let an administrator close that discussion? I don't think you have accurately gauged the consensus of policy-based arguments in that discussion. Thanks, Jfire (talk) 06:05, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello Jfire, your request has been fulfilled and the discussion has been relisted for clearer consensus. Ciao. dxneo (talk) 14:37, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

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Hello. I just wanted to know if there is any reason for these two edits [4], [5]. If there isn't a reason, this is a form of WP:TWINKLEABUSE. Please let me know, regards. Medxvo (talk) 21:13, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

There is a reason why I cited two sources on those nominations, one does not have full award list and the other does, they contain different information. I did not mean to step on your toes and I was about to inform you on your talk but I got held up. And please do not use rowspan on references as it is not adviced, just like how you thought the sources contain the same information, it is also not adviced not to remove cited content (if it is not WF:REFBOMBED. My apologies, I hope you understand. dxneo (talk) 21:32, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

I checked them before editing and both of them had the same information for the four categories, but I could be wrong. Can you please tell me the differences because as far as I remember Independent Online had the (Best R&B) category on the article as well? Also the rowspan information is new to me as the good articles for songs use the rowspan for their accolades section. Why is it not advised? Thanks for replying. I'm just trying to help. Medxvo (talk) 22:04, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

You got a point though, you may proceed and revert my edit(s). Again, my apologies, Thank you happy editing. dxneo (talk) 22:13, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks so much for replying and collaborating, people like you make Wikipedia a better place! Have a good day. Medxvo (talk) 22:22, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

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If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! Primefac (talk) 07:36, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

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Well, that wasn't a nice welcome to DYK, was it? I'm very sorry for it. I just want to reiterate Amakuru's comments that you did nothing wrong whatsoever. The DYK checks were insufficient; that hook should never have made it onto the main page. Thanks for your good work; please keep it up. And don't be discouraged from nominating at DYK. Something like this does not happen very often. You'll have a much better experience next time! Feel free to ping me or Amakuru when you nominate again and feel that things might potentially be controversial. It's easy to sort things out before a hook goes to the main page. Schwede66 04:04, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Weeknd

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A tag has been placed on Wikipedia:WikiProject The Weeknd requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject The Weeknd. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

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I don't see the proposal for this project. Did you go through Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals? It's best to find enough editors interested in participating in the project first before creating it. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 01:55, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Wow Star, I didn't know there were steps to be followed before creating this, I literally spent days writing this in my notepad, formulating it and trying to figure out how it's subpages, templates and categories work. Since this is a speedy I guess there's nothing I can do but I am willing to give my all into making this work. Question, if it's gets deleted, will it's all associated templates go too? And when I finally get approval for recreation, will all the lost data be restored? dxneo (talk) 02:19, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

They will get deleted but they should be recoverable as well should the project get the go-ahead. You may want to contact User:AskeeaeWiki, who was the previous person who attempted to start the project on their own, to help. Projects only work if there are groups of people willing to maintain it. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 03:06, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

@Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars If it stays, or if User:Dxneo goes ahead and gives it the proper go-through process, then I'm all in for helping maintain it. 𝘮𝘪𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘦𝘭'𝘴 𝘥𝘦𝘢𝘳 𝘮𝘦𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘺, 03:11, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Michael, I would appreciate it if you joined the participants and also helped contest the deletion while I try to get the ahead for the project. Star, since the project is now on death row, how do I ask for its approval? dxneo (talk) 07:02, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

I'll try my best. I looked at the deletion discussion and some seem positive towards just going to proposing it while some are harsh and believe it should never exist, I'll help. 𝘮𝘪𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘦𝘭'𝘴 𝘥𝘦𝘢𝘳 𝘮𝘦𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘺, 07:10, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. dxneo (talk) 07:12, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

By the way, you do not need a WikiProject to improve the content of the topics you are interested in. This is why solo projects aren't particularly useful. Just work on those articles. By the way, I do see that the project was temporarily saved, but please do not create any more and be sure to read up on new aspects of Wikipedia if you haven't devled in them before (i.e., never just copy what other people did). Thanks. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 17:08, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Star, honestly I don't recall saying I created the WikiProject to improve articles, I was just expanding and trying new things that's all. Thank you so so much for your help, you are appreciated. And what do you mean by "never just copy what other people did"? dxneo (talk) 17:56, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Improving articles in a collaborative manner on a common area of interest is the goal of WikiProjects (in this case, articles related to The Weeknd). Since you said you did a lot of research to create this WikiProject, yet never looked up any guidelines on how to do it, I assumed you must have taken your cues for other existing WikiProjects. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 18:08, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Star, yes I did look up how they are structured and again yes, I studied how multiple WikiProjects are written. WikiProjects such as Sia, Mariah Carey, Billie Eilish and Rihanna just to mention a few, I did so to see what they all had in common. Some things around here are really difficult, as of now I'm still learning how to construct the assessment table/recognized articles but I figured it's best I tag every the Weeknd related article before I proceed. If you have any pointers on how to make this less difficult, please do tell. dxneo (talk) 18:39, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

WikiProject The Weeknd

Sorry, but I can't just ignore the result of a deletion discussion. Can I suggest you hook up with Wikipedia:WikiProject R&B and Soul Music because that is not very active currently? Please do not be discouraged by this — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:35, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

11:11 artwork

Regarding this, the source does not contain contains "fan animated" works, but what the artworks announced looked like prior to it being released. Thank you for updating the source though :)--DollysOnMyMind (talk) 07:21, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. dxneo (talk) 07:25, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

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