User talk:Rainyyang

Please don’t bite me, I’m a newbie!

I’m a university student in a Wikipedia Education class, and I’m currently learning how to contribute to Wikipedia.
I am approaching my subject in good faith.

If you have any concerns or questions, my tutor’s name is Ajcwritwiki (talk · contribs). Thanks!

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Hello, Rainyyang, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages you might find helpful:

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Hi Rainyyang!! You're invited: learn how to edit Wikipedia in under an hour. Hope to see you there! Play The Wikipedia Adventure This message was delivered by Sam Sailor 09:43, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (May 19)

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Sam Sailor 09:42, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

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WikiProject China

You are invited to participate in WikiProject China, a WikiProject dedicated to developing and improving articles about China.  Sam Sailor 16:36, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Edits to China PX protest

Hi, I'm BlackcurrantTea. I saw the question you left on Ian (Wiki Ed)'s talk page and took a quick look at some of the changes you made to China PX protest. Thank you for expanding the article - your additions have made a real difference.

• What stood out most for me is that many of your references don't include an easy, direct way for readers to reach them. Can you add a URL, a doi, arXiv, PMID, or other way for people to find the references that you reached through EBSCO and ProQuest? That would be very helpful.
• Be careful with automated citation tools. They can get things wrong. For example, in {{Cite web|date=2014-04-01|title=China petrochemical plant may be halted after protests {{!}} Jennifer Duggan|url=http://www.theguardian.com/environment/chinas-choice/2014/apr/01/china-environment-protests-px|access-date=2021-05-18|website=the Guardian}}, "Jennifer Duggan" is the author, not part of the title. Sam Sailor fixed that and some of the other things I noted in this edit; it may be helpful for you to look at the changes there.

Some other things I noticed were matters of style, addressed in the Wikipedia Manual of style:

• Wikipedia uses the "logical quotation" style. This means that quotes are generally inside other punctuation, so a closing quotation mark goes before a comma or full stop/period rather than after: She said the book was "a bit odd, but quite interesting".
• Use "straight" quotation marks rather than curly ones, i.e. ' , not ’ .
• If someone puts a non-breaking space (&nbsp followed by a ;) in between two words, please leave it. It's code for a "non-breaking space", and it tells the software to not put a linebreak between two words or numbers and words. It's easier to understand, for example,

Repairs to the factory cost 1 million yuan.
than
Repairs to the factory cost 1
million yuan.

Thanks again for your work on the article. I hope you'll stay and continue editing Wikipedia after your class has ended. Happy editing! BlackcurrantTea (talk) 12:52, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

@BlackcurrantTea:, Hi, thank you so much for the feedbacks! I have updated the article according to them. If you can have another look that would be great! The only issue is that with sources from EBSCO/ProQuest I have tried to include the URLs (unfortunately they do not have doi), but they are via my university student account which means the public would not be able to access them without an account/membership. Do you happen to have any other solutions? Thanks again! Rainyyang (talk) 11:55, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

I found an easy solution to one of the China Chemical Reporter refs; it will probably work for the others. Searching for "Huge Shortfall in China's PX Output Needs to Be Narrowed" with Google, the only result was the China PX protest Wikipedia article. However, adding site:ccr.com.cn (China Chemical Reporter's website) led to the article there. It's not logical - that link should appear in both places, or not at all - but sometimes one has to manipulate Google to find a result.

The changes you made in the most recent edit are good. Convert templates are (almost) always a helpful addition, and it's easier to read numbers with separators in them. I see you added a lot of non-breaking spaces and changed to logical quotation marks, too.

Aside from adding the URL I found for the reference, most of the changes I made are to language, which I might do to any article. The plural form of 'media' is 'media'. It started out with 'medium' as the singular form and 'media' as the plural, but that's not often used now. (English is a terribly irregular language.) Things to watch for:

• This is the most important one: Be careful paraphrasing sources, especially if they're copyrighted. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and it's bad for everyone when part, or even most, of an article has to be erased because it was a copyright violation.
• Edits should only be marked as minor if they're something like fixing a spelling error, or adjusting the format of a reference without changing its content. Even if a change is only a few letters, it's not minor if it changes the meaning.
• Sentences shouldn't start with numbers, although it's ok if they start with those numbers spelled out. For example, instead of "1,300 people attended the protest in front of City Hall", you could write "One thousand, three hundred people attended the protest in front of City Hall". Because numbers written out that way tend to look awkward or unnatural, it's usually better to rewrite the sentence, e.g. "At the protest in front of City Hall, there were 1,300 people" or "The protest, held in front of City Hall, drew 1,300 people".
• Numbers from one to ten are spelled out rather than written in digits, with some exceptions.
• Titles of newspapers, magazines, and some websites are italicised, e.g. South China Morning Post, Maoming Daily. Whether to italicise a website or not can be a bit tricky; I often check the Wikipedia article to see if it's italicised. (If you do that, look at the text of the article; sometimes people forget to put the article title in italics.)
• The curly quotes / straight quotes: I know from experience that the difference can be hard to see. It gets easier with practise.

It may seem as though there are endless rules and details, but you don't have to memorise them all. Most of it is knowing where to look for answers. You're doing fine! Cheers, BlackcurrantTea (talk) 13:04, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

@BlackcurrantTea:, Thank you for the help, I have found and added the URL for another one of the references. I have also edited the article again and hopefully these issues have been addressed. Thanks again for the feedback :) Rainyyang (talk) 04:16, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

You're welcome; I'm glad I could help. I had a question about a bit I rephrased here. I think I understood what was meant, but should it be "15 new (projects/plants/facilities) in addition to expansion of existing plants"? I read it as 15 total projects, some new and some expansions, but it might have been 15 new projects as well as expansion of existing plants.

I found one more CCR URL, but had no luck finding one for "Dalian Fujia Dahua PX Plant Ordered to Relocate" in CCR. 22: 7. The issue is online, but they don't list the article. Qian Xuhong's ORCID 0000-0003-0394-1968 record looks sufficiently scholarly to make me think me that this is the wrong MENA Report, and there must be more than one publication by that name. Unfortunately, their article wasn't listed in ORCID or Google Scholar. It was worth a try. Cheers, BlackcurrantTea (talk) 12:14, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

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