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xavexgoem says: Synergetic: try turning off whatever music you have on
synergeticmaggot says: its off
synergeticmaggot says: Fur Elise is a short song :D
synergeticmaggot says: i hit the answer but nothing happened
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*** sniperz11 can't be added to this chat due to his/her privacy settings
Steve Crossin says: heh
Filll says: this is where the lectures will be?
Steve Crossin says: im doing some project work
Steve Crossin says: so im not sure how active i can be
synergeticmaggot says: Filll: here and there, this is for hearing the discussion i believe
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Filll says: oh ok
Steve Crossin says: ;(
xavexgoem says: Seddon is trying to record atm
Filll says: ok
Steve Crossin says: hehe
Steve Crossin says: O_O
Kim Bruning says: sniperz needs addind!
Steve Crossin says: lol
Steve Crossin says: YES
Kim Bruning says: and steve
Steve Crossin says: "Annes TMC Gravy"
Steve Crossin says: darn it
Adrian says: voice?
Kim Bruning says: gonna setup soon...
Adrian says: k
Filll says: sniper can you listen?
Kim Bruning says: sniperz: are you ok?
Kim Bruning says: sniper.... can you listen?
xavexgoem says: I'm connecting with sniper fine
Steve Crossin says: what!!
Steve Crossin says: it will likebe AM
Steve Crossin says: yea
xavexgoem says: Could it be your end, SEddon?
Steve Crossin says: *2am
Seddon69 says: it might
xavexgoem says: Kim, you want sniper here?
xavexgoem says: in VC?
Steve Crossin says: yea stop being ao UK friendly
Steve Crossin says: :P
Kim Bruning says: xavex: I hope!
xavexgoem says: Hmm...
Filll says: sniper can you type?
xavexgoem says: He's still connected to me
Steve Crossin says: call is slowing me down too much
Filll says: oh oh
Filll says: what happened seddon?
Seddon69 says: xav is gonna try and host
Seddon69 says: so i ended the call :P
Filll says: ok
Filll says: use options at top
xavexgoem says: alright
xavexgoem says: lemme try again
Filll says: and do conference call
Filll says: from options at top of screen
Adrian says: muted but can hear you all very good
Filll says: i am muted too
Steve Crossin says: im not in the call
xavexgoem says: SynergeticMag, do you have any applications that are using sound other than Skype?
synergeticmaggot says: nope
xavexgoem says: Hmm..
Steve Crossin says: i dont wanna be, slows me down
Filll says: killingthe process known as SkypePM in windows cna be good
Adrian says: synergic called?
xavexgoem says: he did
Steve Crossin says: the call slows my internet down to a slug
xavexgoem says: but I think it's a driver issue
Filll says: synergetic?
Filll says: you are not in?
synergeticmaggot says: i dont know, i was trying other options
Steve Crossin says: our net is dialup speed now
synergeticmaggot says: neve used skype before
Filll says: well did you answer when the call came in?
Kim Bruning says: synergistic might need to kill skype and restart or so
Filll says: want me to call you?
xavexgoem says: synergetic, could you maybe restart? :S can't think of anything else
Kim Bruning says: and kill any other sound programs
Kim Bruning says: depending what os/system
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Filll says: ok he might have to restart
Adrian says: the whose what?
Filll says: or to change his sound options...the headset figure lower right hand button of skype window
Filll says: whose?
Adrian says: I'm in a VC hosted by xavex right now. why is synergic calling?
Filll says: he is confused
Adrian says: oh
Filll says: he is hitting redial from his history
Filll says: haha
Filll says: so it calls everyone
Filll says: it is a mistake
Filll says: do not answer it
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Filll says: i will try to call him one on one again
xavexgoem says: I think SynergeticMag needs a restart
Filll says: hmmm
Filll says: seems to have sound card trouble
xavexgoem says: He's not even in the chat...?
Filll says: why is he not in this chat
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Filll says: syn are you there?
Filll says: can yo type?
Kim Bruning says: syn helo!
Satyam Nayak says: syn!!
xavexgoem says: me, sorry
xavexgoem says: I think
Kim Bruning says: xavex: tis fine!
xavexgoem says: lemme try again...
Filll says: syn???
Satyam Nayak says: hes typing
synergeticmaggot says: yeah i tried leaving then i couldnt figure out how to rejoin
Filll says: where is syn
synergeticmaggot says: i'm checking on an error message
Kim Bruning says: syn is here
Filll says: well lets see
Filll says: you have a sound card error message
Filll says: i tried to call syn direct and it failed
xavexgoem says: restart, methinks
synergeticmaggot says: i use mozilla firefox as a browser
Kim Bruning says: it happened to me occaisionally too
Filll says: hmm
Filll says: yes it happens
Kim Bruning says: syn: kill firefox and try skyping without?
Filll says: go to the skype main page
synergeticmaggot says: What is Error #6102 or "Problem with recording device", and how do I solve it?
synergeticmaggot says: is where i am at this point
Filll says: and try clicking on bottom that looks like headset
Kim Bruning says: filll: how long will this take? :)
Filll says: not sure
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Filll says: click on button that looks like headset
Kim Bruning says: steve is out again?
Satyam Nayak says: syn: bad mic.
synergeticmaggot says: rather, no mic :)
Filll says: syn are you there?
synergeticmaggot says: yes i'm here@
Filll says: syn you have no mike?
synergeticmaggot says: nope
Filll says: ok click on button that looks like a headset
Filll says: lower right hand corner
synergeticmaggot says: i see no button
Seddon69 says: brb
Kim Bruning says: which skype version? :)
Filll says: ok see what version of sksype you are using
synergeticmaggot says: the one from WP:lectures talk page
Filll says: haha
xavexgoem says: Syn: Reboot. If that doesn't work, I don't know what will...? (my solution to everything)
Filll says: see help at the top?
Filll says: click on help and go to about
Kim Bruning says: http://bruning.xs4all.nl/~kim/photo/dispute_resolution/1280x1024/pict8121.jpg
Filll says: and see what version
Satyam Nayak says: lol
Filll says: i talk about the main skype window of course
synergeticmaggot says: ok i'm rebooting
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Kim Bruning says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:DR
xavexgoem says: (is this being recorded?)
xavexgoem says: just checking
Kim Bruning says: original as designed
Kim Bruning says: new dr methods (added later)
Kim Bruning says: RFC
Kim Bruning says: Mediation committee
Kim Bruning says: Arbitration Committee
Kim Bruning says: Request For Comments
Seddon69 says: come to an end of a sentence in a second please so i can start another recording
Seddon69 says: got a 15 min time limit per recording
xavexgoem says: (Sniper can't see this chat window)
Seddon69 says: one min
Seddon69 says: ill start a new one now
Seddon69 says: ok :P
Seddon69 says: go
Filll says: hmmm
Filll says: sniper cant see this
Filll says: let mee see
xavexgoem says: (this would be better if not for the constant "wheeip" sound whenever someone makes a comment like this)
Filll says: ah
Filll says: yes sniper's text is not going through
Filll says: I am not sure why
Filll says: this happens sometimes
xavexgoem says: I can relay everything to him
Filll says: what i do is prod the system with a direct dial
Filll says: and it clears the buffer
Filll says: but I dont know how to do that with a multiuser chat window
Seddon69 says: brb, dont worry recording is ongoing :)
Filll says: i have to write a cheat sheet for skype i guess
Kim Bruning says: Request for comment
Kim Bruning says: Mediation Committee
Kim Bruning says: Request for Arbitration
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Kim Bruning says: Association of Members Advocates (AMA)
synergeticmaggot says: what about AMA?
Filll says: i cant seem to get his audio working yet
synergeticmaggot says: you know, i think i figured out the problem. i use a cell phone as my modem
Filll says: oh that might be it
Adrian says: AMA was dissolved http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AMA
Kim Bruning says: AMA replaced by Editor Assitence WP:EA
Kim Bruning says: 3rd opinonon WP:3O
xavexgoem says: yup
synergeticmaggot says: yeah i was just trying to figure out what i missed upon reboot + coffee refill
Seddon69 says: wooooooo
synergeticmaggot says: crap, whats the irc command to kill my nick
Filll says: sniper can you see this?
synergeticmaggot says: ghost...?
Kim Bruning says: AMA -> EA
Kim Bruning says: Association of Members Advocates -> Editor assistence
Satyam Nayak says: syn: /ghost <in> <the> <shell>
synergeticmaggot says: danke
Kim Bruning says: Mediation Committee -> mediation cabal
Kim Bruning says: arbitration committee ->  ?
xavexgoem says: ?
xavexgoem says: say what?
synergeticmaggot says: arbitrary resolutions?
xavexgoem says: sniper, do you see thsi
xavexgoem says: ?
Kim Bruning says: Editor Assistence
Kim Bruning says: Mediation Cabal
Kim Bruning says: 3 opinion
Kim Bruning says: * RFC
Kim Bruning says: * MEDCOM
Kim Bruning says: * ARBCOM
xavexgoem says: :D
Kim Bruning says: Guerilla Mediation
xavexgoem says: yes
Seddon69 says: 10 min
xavexgoem says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GUERRILLA
xavexgoem says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Guerrilla_Mediation_Network#Possible_resurrection.3F
Filll says: readd me
Filll says: if you can
xavexgoem says: Vassyana suggests starting out at GAN, actually
xavexgoem says: who needs re-add?
xavexgoem says: saying you're not online
Filll says: filll
synergeticmaggot says: i'm gonna sit this one out, i have a few things to do before work, bye all :)
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Filll says: oh oh
Filll says: i am losing it
Filll says: lost it
Filll says: dropped
xavexgoem says: trying to readd
xavexgoem says: :)
Adrian says: shoot Filll dropped again
Filll says: haha
Filll says: sorry about that
Filll says: i also went to get a sandwich
Filll says: add me
Filll says: if you can
Kim Bruning says: yell if you want reinvite :)
Filll says: my connection has gone flaky
Kim Bruning says: I guess call xavexgoem
Filll says: oops
Filll says: i should be back
Filll says: i think
Kim Bruning says: Wikipedia:Consensus
Kim Bruning says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Consensus_new_and_old.svg
Kim Bruning says: :)
Kim Bruning says: Don't be a dick
Kim Bruning says: Civility
xavexgoem thinks policy is a massive beaning
xavexgoem says: (which seques into consensus, too :) )
Seddon69 says: 2 min 30
Kim Bruning says: WP:SILENCE
Filll says: yes my connection is bad
Seddon69 says: 1 min 30
Filll says: haha
Filll says: add me back
Seddon69 says: go :)
Filll says: sorry
Filll says: i was very stable yesterday
xavexgoem says: I'll re-add as they drop, don't worry
Kim Bruning says: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?DocumentMode
xavexgoem says: Freddie Mercury :P
Kim Bruning says: WP:BRD
Kim Bruning says: OODA Loop
Kim Bruning says: http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?ThreadMode
Kim Bruning says: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ThreadMode
Kim Bruning says: I say this
Kim Bruning says: You say that
Kim Bruning says: I say some more
Kim Bruning says: someone else speaks too
Kim Bruning says: I reply to them too
Kim Bruning says: Refactor threadmode -> Documentmode
xavexgoem says: it should happen more often...
Kim Bruning says: talk page -> talk page results -> mainspace page
Kim Bruning says: talk page == thread mode --> mainspace page == document mode
Seddon69 says: 3 min 30
xavexgoem says: the what?
Kim Bruning says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Consensus_new_and_old.svg
xavexgoem says: ah
xavexgoem says: yes
xavexgoem says: I think they will :)
xavexgoem says: scratch that question; I think I have a solution
xavexgoem says: Things tend to come to medcab after consensus takes forever, from what I see
Kim Bruning says: seddon: still watching time?
Seddon69 says: yep 4 mins
xavexgoem shrinks
xavexgoem says: ;)
xavexgoem says: ooooh!
xavexgoem loves the gossip!
Filll says: seth finkelstein
Filll says: was great ranting
Seddon69 says: 5min
xavexgoem says: seddon: mute your mic :P
Seddon69 says: should prob cut it after this and round things up
Filll says: not me
Filll says: I am good
Seddon69 says: 1 min 20
xavexgoem says: done with the question, heh :)
xavexgoem says: *s * 20
Seddon69 says: 1 min
Seddon69 says: 50 secs
Seddon69 says: 40 secs
Seddon69 says: 30 secs
Seddon69 says: 200
Seddon69 says: 20*
Seddon69 says: 15
xavexgoem says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Remote_viewing#Purported_again - Kill them w/ kindness
xavexgoem says: you can cut 1/2 my questions :P
xavexgoem says: (srsly)
xavexgoem says: (particularly when I'm bubbling)
xavexgoem says: (bumbling)* like now
xavexgoem says: awesome
Kim Bruning says: Filll
Kim Bruning says: WP:SR
Kim Bruning says: WP:5P
Kim Bruning says: WP:TRI
Kim Bruning says: Any of these useful?
Kim Bruning says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Simplified_ruleset#This_is_working.21
Kim Bruning says: IAR, BOLD, etc :P
Kim Bruning says: (CCC)
xavexgoem says: Filll: User:Vassyana/insanity <-- very fun, and related
Filll says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Evolution/FAQ
Filll says: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Evolution/FAQ&oldid=107979182
xavexgoem says: I _really_ liked the AGF challenge; maybe'd be good on Skype 2c
Kim Bruning says: hehehehe
Kim Bruning says: :)
xavexgoem says: woah, thought of a template and a cat
xavexgoem says: it'd be awesome
xavexgoem says: {{skype|topic=Skype appropriate for WP?|date=17:16, 23 April 2008 (UTC)|host=xavexgoem}}
Filll says: https://skypecasts.skype.com/skypecasts/skypecast/detailed.html?id_talk=4241481&message=new_talk_created
xavexgoem says: egads
xavexgoem says: what happened?
Filll says: hiccup
Filll says: rejoin
Filll says: from your history
Filll says: go to your history
Filll says: and click the skpyecast
Filll says: see your history xav?
xavexgoem says: Oh, to have a name starting with X :P
Filll says: interesting xav?
Filll says: haha
Filll says: what do you think of these guys
xavexgoem says: interesting...
xavexgoem says: I liked the first three
xavexgoem says: :P
Filll says: nice ladies
Filll says: haha
Filll says: we havent had any lunatics yet
Filll says: but oh well
xavexgoem says: no
xavexgoem says: woah
xavexgoem says: it's easy
xavexgoem says: don't tell him it's hard :P
xavexgoem says: nvm, heh
xavexgoem says: You sound just like Al Franken. It's weird.
Seddon69 says: lol
xavexgoem says: ugh... gotta go
Seddon69 says: kk xav take care mate
Filll says: see ya
Kim Bruning says: Oh woot
Kim Bruning says: a proper lectures channel
Kim Bruning says: skypecast even
Kim Bruning says: this is getting interesting
xavexgoem says: hello
Adrian says: hi
Adrian says: why on lectures?
xavexgoem says: Skype just randomly said someone was speaking here
xavexgoem says: No clue why.
Adrian says: ok...
Adrian says: me neither
Adrian says: I suggested to Kim Bruning to establish a public chat for Lectures
Adrian says: he replied that it "sounds like some Skype 3 feature" ...
Adrian says: I'm reluctatant to do it myself, because the "Creator" is the one in charge (i.e. making others "hosts"=admins etc)
xavexgoem says: isn't this a public chat?
Adrian says: no, look in the NTWW public chat. it says public chat at the top
xavexgoem says: ooh
Adrian says: public chats are also permanent and can be controlled
Adrian says: (i.e. blocking people, or deciding whom to let in)
Adrian says: the advantage is, Skype hosts a link to the public chat
Adrian says: which can be put on WP
xavexgoem says: Oooh
Adrian says: yeah
Adrian says: maybe I'll just go ahead an do it anyway
Adrian says: or, wait. no
Adrian says: I won't do it, because the Skype link reveals your Skype account name--which isn't in itself a problem for me, but my account name contains my real given name
Adrian says: would you care to give it a try?
xavexgoem says: sure; what do I do?
Adrian says: main window > Cahts > Start public chat
Adrian says: really easy
xavexgoem says: Topic? Wikipedia lectures?
Adrian says: don't worry about the topic, it can be changed at any later time. maybe something short, like simply WP:Lectures?
xavexgoem says: Host controls?
Adrian says: Participants need permission to start reading and posting
Adrian says: (can be changed later by creator)
xavexgoem says: Guidelines: "Don't be a dick" ? :P
Adrian says: :D
xavexgoem says: http://www.skype.com/go/joinpublicchat?skypename=xavexgoem&topic=WP%3ALectures&blob=cG2lhdxLTuoqMCXnJ_FMuoxadXDnNOgB1ymXM-iUQOcEmTHK7Whn67Jodj58eSLG6g
Adrian says: JOIN THE ALL NEW PUBLIC CHAT VIA ABOVE LINK