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Constitution Day of Kazakhstan (1995)[edit]

please add this: Constitution Day of Kazakhstan (1995) Bolatbek (talk) 23:22, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2012 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): Battle of Richmond
Omitted: Melbourne; Second Battle of Bull Run; Red Terror; Michael Schumacher; 1995 NATO air campaign in Bosnia and Herzegovina
Included: Vlieter Incident (first appearance); Houston (2nd appearance, last in 2010); Battle of San Juan del Monte (first appearance); Battle of Alam el Halfa (first appearance; 70th anniversary); Space Shuttle Discovery (first appearance)
Note: Despite being the 150th anniversary for both, Battle of Richmond and Second Battle of Bull Run were not included because there were already too many war articles. It also may be possible to combine both of them into one blurb. —howcheng {chat} 16:32, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes[edit]

Omitted: Vlieter Incident; Houston (ineligible—date not verified); Battle of San Juan del Monte; Battle of Alam el Halfa; Space Shuttle Discovery; Michael Schumacher
Included: Fort Mims massacre (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible; 200th anniversary); Melbourne (6th appearance, last in 2011); Burgess Shale (first appearance); National Hero of Indonesia (first appearance); 1995 NATO bombing campaign in Bosnia and Herzegovina (2nd appearance, last in 2011)

—howcheng {chat} 05:38, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes[edit]

Omitted: Fort Mims massacre; Burgess Shale; National Hero of Indonesia; Operation Deliberate Force
Included: Vlieter Incident (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Battle of Richmond/Second Battle of Bull Run (Richmond: first appearance; Bull Run: 9th appearance, last in 2011; previously they were two separate blurbs); Red Terror (6th appearance, last in 2011); Space Shuttle Discovery (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 30th anniversary)
Repeats: Melbourne (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total)

—howcheng {chat} 10:29, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): Thái Nguyên uprising
Omitted: Vlieter Incident; Battle of Richmond/Second Battle of Bull Run; Red Terror; Space Shuttle Discovery
Included: Battle of San Juan del Monte (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Battle of Tannenberg (first appearance); National Hero of Indonesia (2nd appearance, last in 2013); Operation Deliberate Force (3rd appearance, last in 2013; 20th anniversary)
Repeats: Melbourne (3rd consecutive appearance, 8 total)

—howcheng {chat} 09:55, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Battle of Richmond/Second Battle of Bull Run (Bull Run: maintenance)
Omitted: Melbourne; Battle of San Juan del Monte; Battle of Tannenberg; National Hero of Indonesia; Operation Deliberate Force (ineligible—maintenance)
Included: Vlieter Incident (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Fort Mims massacre (2nd appearance, last in 2013); Red Terror (7th appearance, last in 2014); Battle of Alam el Halfa (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Mohammad-Ali Rajai/Mohammad-Javad Bahonar (both: first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 07:43, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Burgess Shale (maintenance); Battle of Tannenberg (maintenance); Thái Nguyên uprising (maintenance)
Omitted: Vlieter Incident; Fort Mims massacre; Red Terror; Mohammad-Ali Rajai/Mohammad-Javad Bahonar/1981 Iranian Prime Minister's office bombing
Included: Amalasuntha (first appearance); Battle of Richmond/Second Battle of Bull Run (Richmond: 2nd appearance; Bull Run: 9th appearance; both last in 2014; rescued from Ineligible); Battle of San Juan del Monte (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Michael Schumacher (5th appearance, last in 2012; 25th anniversary); Albert Szenczi Molnár (first appearance); Mary Shelley (first appearance); Alfredo Ildefonso Schuster (first appearance)
Repeats: Battle of Alam el Halfa (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total; 75th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 03:10, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Iranian Prime Minister's office bombing[edit]

@Howcheng: This article has never appeared on the main page. Would you please see if we can have it on this year? --Mhhossein ^talk 06:52, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes[edit]

Deleted: Red Terror (moved to September 3)
Moved to Ineligible: Melbourne (maintenance)
Omitted: Constitution of Kazakhstan (ineligible—maintenance); Amalasuntha; Battle of Richmond/Second Battle of Bull Run; Battle of San Juan del Monte; Battle of Alam el Halfa; Michael Schumacher; Albert Szenczi Molnár; Mary Shelley; Alfredo Ildefonso Schuster
Included: Siege of Jerusalem (70 CE) (first appearance); Vlieter Incident (4th appearance, last in 2016); Fort Mims massacre (3rd appearance, last in 2016); Mohammad-Ali Rajai/Mohammad-Javad Bahonar/1981 Iranian Prime Minister's office bombing (Bombing: first appearance; Rajai/Bahonar: 2nd appearance, last in 2016); 2014 Lesotho political crisis (first appearance); Hervey le Breton (first appearance); Agoston Haraszthy (first appearance); Marcelo H. del Pilar (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 16:07, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Battle of San Juan del Monte (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Don Getty; Pavel Nedvěd
Omitted: Siege of Jerusalem (70 CE); Fort Mims massacre; Mohammad-Ali Rajai/Mohammad-Javad Bahonar/1981 Iranian Prime Minister's office bombing; Hervey le Breton; Agoston Haraszthy; Marcelo H. del Pilar (ineligible—maintenance)
Included: Amalasuntha (2nd appearance, last in 2017); National Hero of Indonesia (3rd appearance, last in 2015; 60th anniversary); Space Shuttle Discovery (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Joseph Dennie (2nd appearance, last in 2018; normally appears on January 7, his birthday); Mary Shelley (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Guy Burgess (first appearance)
Repeats: Vlieter incident (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total); 2014 Lesotho political crisis (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 22:48, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes[edit]

Omitted: Vlieter incident; National Hero of Indonesia; Space Shuttle Discovery; 2014 Lesotho political crisis; Joseph Dennie (deleted as he already appears on his death anniversary); Mary Shelley; Guy Burgess
Included: Second Battle of Bull Run (11th appearance, last in 2017; blurb also previously featured Battle of Richmond, which is currently ineligible); Fanny Kaplan (first appearance); Zagreb train disaster (first appearance); Operation Deliberate Force (4th appearance, last in 2015; rescued from Ineligible; 25th anniversary); Sir Alexander Carew, 2nd Baronet (first appearance); Marcelo H. del Pilar (2nd appearance, last in 2018; rescued from Ineligible); Jack Marshall (first appearance)
Repeats: Amalasuintha (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:11, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Thurgood Marshall (maintenance); Mohammad-Ali Rajai/Mohammad-Javad Bahonar/1981 Iranian Prime Minister's office bombing (MAR & bombing: maintenance); Mary Shelley (TFA for 2021)
New articles (unused): Phan Quang Đán
Omitted: Second Battle of Bull Run; Fanny Kaplan; Operation Deliberate Force; Sir Alexander Carew, 2nd Baronet; Marcelo H. del Pilar; Jack Marshall
Included: Siege of Jerusalem (70 CE) (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Battle of Tannenberg (2nd appearance, last in 2015; rescued from Ineligible); 2014 Lesotho political crisis (3rd appearance, last in 2019); Hervey le Breton (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Theodor Svedberg (first appearance); Oliver Sacks (first appearance)
Repeats: Amalasuintha (3rd consecutive appearance, 4 total); Zagreb train disaster (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 15:52, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2022 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Vlieter incident (maintenance); Fort Mims massacre (maintenance); Second Battle of Bull Run (maintenance); Operation Deliberate Force (maintenance)
Omitted: Siege of Jerusalem (70 CE) (ineligible—maintenance); Amalasuintha (ineligible—maintenance); Battle of Tannenberg; Zagreb train disaster; 2014 Lesotho political crisis (ineligible—maintenance)
Included: Battle of Alam el Halfa (4th appearance, last in 2017; 80th anniversary); National Hero of Indonesia (4th appearance, last in 2019); Phan Quang Đán (first appearance); Space Shuttle Discovery (4th appearance, last in 2019); Michael Schumacher (6th appearance, last in 2017; 30th anniversary); Mary Shelley (3rd appearance, last in 2019; 225th birthday); Marcelo H. del Pilar (3rd appearance, last in 2020); Guy Burgess (2nd appearance, last in 2019)

—howcheng {chat} 18:20, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]